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Double Gun
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 9:53 am

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Location: Cape Cod

Thought I'd share my recent addition - A 1944 J.P Sauer and Sohn Ejector, retains at least 95% case color, super bright clean barrels with some very light handling marks, and weighs in at about 5lbs. 11oz. If this double was used much at all I'd be surprised. I plan on changing that this fall for sure.
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skeettx
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:03 am
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AWESOME gun, what fun, what a gun
1944, interesting
http://www.shotguns.se/html/germany_1890-1945.html
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Double Gun
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:22 am

Joined: 19 Mar 2017
Posts: 14
Location: Cape Cod

skeettx wrote:
AWESOME gun, what fun, what a gun
1944, interesting
http://www.shotguns.se/html/germany_1890-1945.html
Mike

Thanks Mike, looks like 1939-1945
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skeettx
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:36 am
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Location: Amarillo, Texas

S&S stamp
16 gauge 2 1/2 inch chambers
Nitro proofed
Proofed in Suhl
September 1944, soooooo cool
SWEET!
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byrdog
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:29 am
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Location: the Moosehorn

I see 16ga doubles every so often, With the cheek piece . Once had a Richland 20ga like that, some many years ago. I had to make a slug shooter out of it because when I would swing on left crossing shots I could not help stopping the swing as I fired the gun. Is there something that I Should be doing when shooting a shotgun with a cheek piece?

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Double Gun
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 11:53 am

Joined: 19 Mar 2017
Posts: 14
Location: Cape Cod

skeettx wrote:
S&S stamp
16 gauge 2 1/2 inch chambers
Nitro proofed
Proofed in Suhl
September 1944, soooooo cool
SWEET!

I'm curious how it arrived here in the US considering 7 months later the US Army came knocking on the door. Very interesting that they produced these high quality doubles all through the war.
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Carlos
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 12:29 pm

Joined: 21 May 2010
Posts: 570
Location: Victoria BC Canada

skeettx wrote:
AWESOME gun, what fun, what a gun
1944, interesting
http://www.shotguns.se/html/germany_1890-1945.html
Mike

I can imagine a story, going something like, purchased by a Nazi official and seized/turned in to the Allies (likely US) at the end of the war?
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jswanson
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:26 am

Joined: 03 Feb 2008
Posts: 791
Location: Adirondak Mtns

I know my dad and uncle's brought several interesting items home.in the duffel bag. This probably made a similar trip.

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Ray-citori
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:13 am

Joined: 05 Feb 2015
Posts: 264
Location: New Braunfels TX

I don't think they were that strict with what the returning GIs brought back from a concurred Germany in 45-46. I had a neighbor who brought back an Austrian wife
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dannypratt
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:52 pm
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Posts: 692
Location: Napoleon, MI

Wow!
That's a GREAT jp sauer! In my personal opinion, (which isn't worth a hoot), the true pre war and slightly after ww2 Sauer doubles are just plain 'fine' guns. 'Fine' meaning of highest qaulity, not 'fine' as in:' that Mossberg 500 is a perfectly fine beater gun.'
Nice find! Excellent!

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sharps4590
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 4:11 am

Joined: 26 Dec 2014
Posts: 164
Location: In the sticks Missouri

Well done, Double!!! Excellent piece sir.

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Jakeismydog2
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 8:56 am

Joined: 15 Mar 2015
Posts: 118
Location: Manhattan KS

I love that script engraving on the bottom of the action.
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dilly
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:26 pm
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Location: Ontario, Canada

That's a great gun. I would love to get my hands on one of those. I would also love to hear the story behind it. I have my Grandads Luger that made a trip home and it so much more than just a gun to us.

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Double Gun
Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 3:36 pm

Joined: 19 Mar 2017
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Location: Cape Cod

Thanks for kind words guys. I'm pretty excited about it, hope to get to spend some time on the patterning station next week. I'll email the seller and see if they have any info about where it came from. Who knows!
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<16ga. Guns ~ JP Sauer & Sohn
cvdawley
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:15 pm
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Joined: 19 Mar 2007
Posts: 279
Location: Mn

Has anyone had experience with JP Sauer sxs's? For some reason I feel an attraction to these guns, though I have never had one.
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Old Shatterhand
Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:36 pm

Joined: 24 Feb 2008
Posts: 87
Location: Nericia, Sweden

cvdawley wrote:
Has anyone had experience with JP Sauer sxs's? For some reason I feel an attraction to these guns, though I have never had one.

Pre-WWII guns are quite good as are other german guns from that time. I have got one in 12-bore, and it is a simple but well manufactured and well balanced gun. I would compare the qulity from this period with pre-war Winchesters. i.e. excellent.
You will find good information on this site: http://web.comhem.se/~u24326782/ It is the homepage of a swedish Sauer collector, mr. Haggårds.
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mdm1
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:45 pm
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Location: Central Texas

I owned and shot one in 16 ga. for several years. It was a 1956 model, 68 cm barrels, choked full/full. Mine was plain, but very well made, very reliable. Metal to metal fit was quite tight even after 40 years. I sold it because it was time for something else with more open chokes. At least that's what I told myself at the time. Good luck.
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cvdawley
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:39 pm
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Shatterhand: You emailed me an article but something went wrong in the transmission and I cant access it, could you send it to me again? Thanks
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JonP
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:35 pm

Joined: 13 Dec 2006
Posts: 689
Location: MN

My favorite birdgun is a 1932 straight stock 16 ga. Sauer. Its just a field grade, simple engraving, no ejectors, auto safety. Had it fitted and it shoots great for me. Have never had a problem or failure. Has a nice thin wrist on it and is easy to one hand through the grouse cover. Found it in an upstate NY gun shop about eight years ago, paid $600 and I think I got a deal. Don't care now -wouldn't part with it.
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Old Shatterhand
Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:43 pm

Joined: 24 Feb 2008
Posts: 87
Location: Nericia, Sweden

cvdawley wrote:
Shatterhand: You emailed me an article but something went wrong in the transmission and I cant access it, could you send it to me again? Thanks

New mail with the article away.
O.S.
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Golfswithwolves
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:23 pm
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Joined: 14 Sep 2006
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Location: Black hills of South Dakota

I've got a Sauer 16, am very happy with it. I shot some pheasants with it so far, also a sharptail. I had Mr. Mike Orlen open the chokes a bit too. Sauer seems to make a fine SXS, mine was built a long time ago.

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bhs61
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:28 pm

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
Posts: 64
Location: Cass Co. Il.

I have four Sauer SxS's at the present. Over the past forty plus years I have always had a Sauer to hunt upland birds with along with all the highly thought of American, Italian, Belgium and Spanish SxS's. This year I tried to use a RBL but ended up using the pictured Model 18e Sauer 16 ga that is two years shy of 100 years old. I purchased this gun at an auction here in Illinois last spring. It is a fantastic game gun and has seen a lot of use but still locks-up better than any gun I have ever owned.
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JonP
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:27 pm

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Location: MN

Boy-oh Boy (drool!!!!)---how about a close up of the action on that 18e (slobber, drool, sigh!!!).
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Prussian Gun Guy
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 6:33 pm
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Location: Long Island, NY

Early Sauers can be a joy, especially the ones with intercepting sears. In 16 ga. you can expect weights in the 6-6 1/2 lb. range.
The post WWII Sauers are also great guns. While a bit heavier, and with lesser quality than the older guns, they are still a bargain.
With either the pre or post war guns, you will get a gun that locks up tighter than a bank vault. Most utilize dual underlugs, side clips, and a Greener Crossbolt.
Most older guns do need to have their chokes opened up though.

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bhs61
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:37 am

Joined: 28 Dec 2006
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Location: Cass Co. Il.

According to Peter Arfmann and Rolf Kallmeyer in their book J. P. Sauer & son, the Model 18e was also known as a masterpiece shotgun. It was produced by the best specialists at the factory. I only wish this gun could tell of the hunts in its past as its condition indicates that it has seen many hours in the uplands. I intend to keep hunting with it as long as I am able and then will pass it on to my youngest brother in hopes that he will do the same.
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Gil S
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2008 2:28 pm
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Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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Location: Lowcountry Ga.

I had a pre-war 16, DT, ejectors, cocking indicators. It had a well-figured Monte Carlo stock, sling mounts on stock and between barrels. It was a great shooting gun. I sold it about 20 years ago and wish I hadn't. It was made in 1934 in Suhl if my memory serves me correctly. It was a beautiful, well-made gun.
Gil
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Birdswatter
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:46 pm
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Here is link to a prior post of my 1938 16 ga. Drilling.............
http://www.16ga.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=599&highlight=1938+sauer
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Birdswatter
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:52 pm
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And here is another pic....it is on the bottom.
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Gil S
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2008 5:57 pm
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Location: Lowcountry Ga.

Birdswatter,
Beautiful guns!
Gil
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J.p. Sauer & Sohn Royal

A scalloped and sideclipped frame boxlock ejector shotgun in 20 gauge. The 26” barrels have 2 3/4' chambers, a matted game rib with barrel extension, Greener crossbolt, sling swivel stud and are choked Improved Cylinder - Right & Modified - Left. A hunting rifle made by Sauer is an investment in generations. Every single rifle or shotgun by J.P. SAUER & SOHN not only boasts uncompromising qualitiy, utmost precision and timeless beauty, but also leaves lasting values, that are passed on from generation to generation. Jp Sauer And Sohn Firearms directly to a California C&R holder. New York Residents: Handguns cannot be shipped directly to a C&R holder in the State of New York and must be transfered through a dealer. Antique cartridge handguns require an FFL transfer in New York City. Jp Sauer Sohn Royal Shotgun Forum Site. A 12- or 20-gauge boxlock double-barrel shotgun, with 26', 28' or 30' barrels. Single-selective triggers, with automatic ejectors. Frame is scalloped. Blued, with checkered walnut stock. Thought I'd share my recent addition - A 1944 J.P Sauer and Sohn Ejector, retains at least 95% case color, super bright clean barrels with some very light handling marks, and weighs in at about 5lbs. If this double was used much at all I'd be surprised. I plan on changing that this fall for sure.